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Post by Nats on Nov 2, 2015 2:56:23 GMT
Should he stay or Should he go?
he court's understanding of how technology works is "pivotal" to Kim Dotcom's extradition case, his lawyer says.
Kim Dotcom has appeared again in court as he fights extradition to the United States over his file sharing website MegaUpload.
Dotcom's lawyer Ron Mansfield began his opening address on Monday, describing to Judge Nevin Dawson how the website worked and the ramifications of the extradition case for the future of the internet.
Mansfield argued it was "politically untenable" that the US used the courts as a "backdoor discussion" and said the US was "attempting to create criminal liability where none exists".
In its short lifetime MegaUpload had one billion unique visitors and at the time accounted for four per cent of the world's internet traffic, the court was told.
The "simple and legitimate" file sharing concept of which Dotcom was the "chief innovation officer", quickly turned into a highly successful business which became the 13th most visited website in the world, Mansfield said.
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Post by catweasel on Nov 2, 2015 3:16:02 GMT
he should face
his accusers
and answer to those charges
but it should be done
on our terms
not the usa
we dont need their
paramilitary
kicking in doors
and barking orders
a simple extradition request
is all thats required
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Post by Nats on Nov 2, 2015 3:21:02 GMT
I reckon extradition no barr hold.
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Post by Imbannedeverywhere on Nov 2, 2015 3:46:52 GMT
I dont see how anyone has the right to force someone to go to a country he has never been in, to answer charges for alleged crimes that were also not committed in that country, because in the country where the crimes were committed, they are not crimes.  |
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Post by Nats on Nov 2, 2015 4:10:17 GMT
Has he never been to USA.
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Post by Imbannedeverywhere on Nov 2, 2015 4:26:40 GMT
As far as I know...nope.
The alleged offending is only a civil case in Hong Kong, that's probably why he set up there, as criminal sanctions are only applied against physical works such as forged paintings or copied DVD,s... it doesn't cover 1's and zeros on the web.
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Post by Nats on Nov 2, 2015 4:44:07 GMT
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Post by catweasel on Nov 2, 2015 6:05:40 GMT
copyright is not restricted to its country of origin
otherwise i would be rewriting Jack Reacher books
and publishing them under my own name
nor are patents confined by geography
they are the property of the owner
until the patent expires
as the world becomes less about geography
and more about a global market
should we remove the motivation to invent
or improve things?
if Bill Gates thought the japanese would just take his work
what would be his motivation
to even bother developing it
no
ownership and rights to
replicate, distribute or sell it
should be the domain
of the owner
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Post by Imbannedeverywhere on Nov 2, 2015 12:33:01 GMT
copyright is not restricted to its country of origin otherwise i would be rewriting Jack Reacher books and publishing them under my own name nor are patents confined by geography they are the property of the owner until the patent expires as the world becomes less about geography and more about a global market should we remove the motivation to invent or improve things? if Bill Gates thought the japanese would just take his work what would be his motivation to even bother developing it no ownership and rights to replicate, distribute or sell it should be the domain of the owner Granted, but as there is no world court to make the laws universal, the laws of the country in which any offence took place should be the one in which any recompense is sought. The company and Dotcom were based in Hong Kong, and the laws there would make the distribution of files a civil matter. So the aggrieved parties should be undertaking a civil trial in Hong Kong, not a criminal one in the states.. Otherwise, where does it end, me being plucked from my home by the government on behalf of Indonesia, because I was in possession of an ounce of cannabis....and sending me off to face the death penalty? |
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Post by catweasel on Nov 2, 2015 16:23:15 GMT
tru dat
there is no world court
and the last people we want
being the default court
is the americans
the hong Kong thing
is people using loopholes
to cheat the system
to negate the laws
which in itself
is not a crime
but where too does that
end?
will we have companies setting up shop
using north korea
as their home base?
lastly
you have an ounce of pot?
indo?
cor jellis
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Post by Imbannedeverywhere on Nov 3, 2015 5:16:41 GMT
Tis a situation that needs adressing to be sure, from all sides I have 58 Grams, just weighed my stash  |
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Post by catweasel on Nov 3, 2015 5:37:39 GMT
58 grams? damn thats flash two week supply  |
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