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Post by Nats on Jan 16, 2018 20:35:20 GMT
Is not a happy chappy Embattled internet mogul Kim Dotcom has been left with two containers filled with rotting furniture after property seized by the US government was returned to him ruined. After a six-year wait, everything from Dotcom's penthouse in Hong Kong frozen by court order in 2011 has arrived in New Zealand. The Hong Kong court ordered his property be returned last year. However, Dotcom has been left far from happy. Just this once I agree with him
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Post by catweasel on Jan 16, 2018 21:01:50 GMT
i also agreed with him over the way he was arrested a full scale dawn raid armed assault on his pad was way OTT
hes a copyright thief not a drug lord
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Post by andri on Jan 16, 2018 21:06:51 GMT
Considering the USA has no jurisdiction in NZ to extradite him to the USA, I'm glad he won his case. And so he should have.
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Post by catweasel on Jan 16, 2018 21:09:48 GMT
except now his furniture looks like it was put in a blender
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Post by andri on Jan 16, 2018 21:15:26 GMT
His furniture though. Your assets get frozen. You spend a bit of time in jail. Lose your family. Then get told you have no chairs to sit on. Or table to eat off.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 22:13:13 GMT
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Post by mab on Jan 20, 2018 2:40:38 GMT
I read today that he's going to sue the NZ government for billions....
Eh??
He wants to have a safe place to live here, yet wants to fuck over the tax payer??
I'm not understanding this move...
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Post by catweasel on Jan 20, 2018 2:54:42 GMT
someone needs to have a whisper in his shell like
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Post by catweasel on Jan 20, 2018 2:55:36 GMT
shell-like
my bad
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Post by andri on Jan 20, 2018 3:31:10 GMT
He's angry. He won't get billions. The parties could possibly settle out of court. The least they can do is give him enough money to go shopping at big save furniture. But yeah, it'll be the taxpayer paying for national govt buck up.
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Post by catweasel on Jan 20, 2018 3:33:18 GMT
i might pm the fat cunt weve got a spare sofa he can have out in the shed
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Post by andri on Jan 20, 2018 3:36:25 GMT
We've got two side bed tables he can have. One of the draw knobs falls off but I'll explain to him the knack of how to open the draw without that happening
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Post by catweasel on Jan 20, 2018 3:39:19 GMT
he should be pretty much set then you might want to nail that drawer shut andri if it falls out and hurts his toe well.... you know what hes like
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Post by Imbannedeverywhere on Jan 20, 2018 12:29:09 GMT
I used to think he was getting a raw deal, but he is just another self serving asshole out to make his own life better, while constantly stealing from others..... hope they just let the US government take him now to be honest.... his extradition has been the slowest one I have ever seen in my lifetime.... hurry it up already, and let him fight his charges..... the rot in a US prison for the rest of the fat fucks life. He has already cost us tens of millions of dollars.... send the bludger to the US FFS. www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11939853
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Post by andri on Jan 20, 2018 18:22:43 GMT
That maybe true but the USA had no jurisdiction in NZ to extradite him. What they did was against our laws. That's why he won his case. But I agree with you. He's a leech off the backs of society.
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Post by Nats on Jan 20, 2018 18:36:36 GMT
Agree Andri he knows it & is milking it/nz for all its worth
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Post by Imbannedeverywhere on Jan 20, 2018 19:13:27 GMT
That maybe true but the USA had no jurisdiction in NZ to extradite him. What they did was against our laws. That's why he won his case. But I agree with you. He's a leech off the backs of society. The extradition process is still ongoing , he will get tossed to the yanks eventually, in the mean time, he is costing us millions.
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Post by Imbannedeverywhere on Jan 20, 2018 19:14:16 GMT
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Post by Nats on Jan 20, 2018 19:34:20 GMT
Loved the best man at his wedding ( his dog)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:12:29 GMT
kick a man while he is down aye I know what it feels like to have ya shit go moldy in storage and stuff go missing mind you he dosnt really need soft furnishings I guess
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:32:04 GMT
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Post by andri on Jan 20, 2018 20:40:43 GMT
It was accepted the US was unable to extradite on the charge of copyright violation which meant the conspiracy claims were all plaque.
A finding from the NZ court judge David Harvey said the case would "hang upon the establishment of criminal copyright infringement".
No individual Megaupload defendant is shown to have so criminally copied or distributed a copyrighted work. There was no legal basis for Megaupload staff being held criminally responsible for a third party copyright violation. "A crime of conspiracy requires an agreement with criminal infringers. No such agreement is shown." So no "legal"basis for extradition.
The onus is on the USA court system to prove he conspired to copy movies which he did not. He was offering a download service. The end users were the infringers.
It's going to be an interesting case for sure. If, the USA win their case, what's from stopping them from shutting down any ISP providers. Nothing. It's dangerous territory for freedom of use for internet users.
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Post by andri on Jan 20, 2018 20:44:47 GMT
This is getting out of hand. No wonder there are many people coming out against Iwi redress payments and labour are looking like they are throwing money around to any sad sack cause.
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Post by andri on Jan 20, 2018 21:07:06 GMT
I don't like that the taxpayer is footing the bill. That's not at all fair on us. But you would think that both the USA and NZ justice system heads would have had an airtight charge before they moved to extradite. All those top brains couldn't even prove the onus of guilt because of USA conspiracy copyright laws. It seems silly for them to think Kim wouldnt base his defence on that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 21:49:46 GMT
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